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Re: FTM Sync & Living People

November 25, 2018, 5:10 am
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I tested the privatize option a few years back - probably using FTM 2014 - on a back-up, not a primary, and had a similar result. There was no way to fix, so thank goodness it was a back up.

Those who were living in my tree had nothing to identify them - no name, no dates, no location.
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Re: FTM Sync & Living People

November 25, 2018, 5:59 am
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Oh goodness! Thanks for the warning. My online trees are private (I invite people who are interested in them) but I've never used the other privatise options, except occasionally as a workaround to update an edited image in the online tree (external edits to a photo don't get synced up to Ancestry, but you can force that by temporarily privatising the image, syncing, then unprivatising it again).
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Re: FTM Sync & Living People

November 25, 2018, 6:28 am
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Thanks again everyone. When I prepared the FTM file to upload, I privatized it in the GEDCOM then uploaded it as a public tree. All of that worked fine. The issue arose when someone not marked living in my uploaded file was matched (via hint) with someone marked as living in someone else's file. I don't know how Ancestry manages to do that unless is matches parents, or dates, etc. Anyway, so I accept the new info into my online tree, the first name in my online tree is changed to living and the next time I sync to my local FTM file, this new "first name" replaces the actual first name in the local file.

So, since I did save a copy of the database before I uploaded it, and since I have only been updating via the online database for a few months, I pulled out the backup and as suggested by others, I did NOT privatize it at the GEDCOM phase and then I uploaded it as a private tree that I will send others permission to access. This is the only way I can think of to update my database without repeating the problem. This seems faster than trying to compare and correct the corrupted database.

Thanks again everyone. We live and learn, and, we never know what we do not know.
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Re: FTM Sync & Living People

November 25, 2018, 9:21 am
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AH! You omitted that essential element from your original post - GEDCOM.

When using FTM to sync to/from Ancestry, you do not need to use GEDCOM.
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Re: FTM and AncestryDNA

November 26, 2018, 6:38 am
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"Yeah it does sting when you just miss a sale or better sale."

I bought based on the Mackiev e-mail sent out a couple of weeks ago. $10 isn't a big deal, but I kinda feel cheated :-) Why would Ancestry have a sale just before it's Black Friday sale?

"I did get a great deal on a Y-DNA upgrade the other day so I'm happy."

From Ancestry? I thought they only did autosomal? How do you upgrade?
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Re: FTM and AncestryDNA

November 26, 2018, 7:25 am
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Sales bring customers. And a couple other DNA/Genealogy testing companies start their sales in early November so if they want to catch customers they run a sale too.

Not Ancestry. The only DNA/Genealogy testing company that offers more than autosomal DNA testing is the original DNA/Genealogy testing company Family Tree DNA which is based in Houston, Texas. FTDNA offers autosomal DNA, Y-DNA (direct male line) and mtDNA (mitochondrial) (direct female line) tests. And once tested, FTDNA stores the samples so "upgrades" which are other tests types or further analysis can be added later without having to submit a new sample as long as the original sample is still viable.

Two other DNA/Genealogy testings companies, 23andMe and LivingDNA, give you a general glimpse (not a separate test so no matches/comparison/tools) at both your Y-DNA (if tester is male) and mt-DNA (both male and female) haplogroups.
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November 2018 update

November 26, 2018, 7:50 am
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Has anyone updated and were there any problems?
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Re: November 2018 update

November 26, 2018, 8:09 am
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Re: FTM and AncestryDNA

November 26, 2018, 8:13 am
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Re: New second update to FTM 2017

November 26, 2018, 9:07 am
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"There's probably a simple edit to the non-merging url that will work round this but I haven't found what it is yet."

The problem is caused by the dummy search page and the way FTM2017 asks for the update. I found that by changing the language value to 1033 in the user.config fileand in the registry, plus registering on ancestry.com with my .co.uk login details then the "search result details" will update (I also registered on many of the other Ancestry sites just to be on the safe side).


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Source Question - Personal Interviews, Conversations

November 26, 2018, 12:15 pm
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Endless list of "Personal Conversation" sources?

I'm fastidious in my source documentation and closely follow Evidence Explained as closely as possible. I'm "crowdsourcing" best practices here -- specifically about creating/using source documentation for personal conversations and interviews. My current practice is to create a separate source for each conversation/interview (using Firsthand Knowledge template), but my list of sources is growing very long. I can think of two options, though there are likely more:

1. Keep creating a new source every time I interview Aunt Emily or Uncle Fred and not worry that there might be dozens and dozens of sources listed in the Sources Tab.

2. Create a generic Source for Personal Conversation, either one for each interviewee (though I may talk to them many times) or simply a source "Personal Conversation," and then edit the details in each citation.

I might be completely misusing the source capabilities of FTM, but want to learn from others. So... how do you manage documenting individual conversations or interviews? What are your practices?
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Re: November 2018 update

November 26, 2018, 1:02 pm
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Yes, that is probably the correct time.
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Re: Source Question - Personal Interviews, Conversations

November 26, 2018, 2:35 pm
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Thanks so much for the speedy reply! Regarding template, you are correct, the template should be Interview. That is the template I have been using (I wrote my original post without checking my FTM file).

Can you help me with the question of how many actual Interview sources will my Source list? Will there be a single source for Aunt Betty, or will there be one source for Aunt Betty Interview in July 1987 and another source for Aunt Betty Interview in November 2018? In other words, is "Aunt Betty Interview" a single source listing regardless of how many conversations I have with her, or is each interview a separate source in the listing?

I am assuming, of course, the each interviewee will be listed as a different source, and not simply a "Personal Interview" source with details edited in different citations.

Now I've confused myself again. :-) Any clarifications you can offer will be helpful. Thanks again for your reply!
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Re: Source Question - Personal Interviews, Conversations

November 26, 2018, 2:50 pm
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It has been my understanding that "Firsthand Knowledge" or "Personal Knowledge" as used in E. E., refers to the knowledge the author has, i.e. you. Refer to E. E. p. 49 and p. 155. The information you are recording from others is considered an interview, and so that template should be used in your case.

The information from the Source Template and the Citation Detail is used to construct the Reference Note. Anytime you change the information in the Source or Citation Detail, the Reference Note will be updated, unless you have manually edited the Reference Note. Once the Reference Note is edited ever-so-slightly, changes in the Source and/or Citation Detail will not affect the Reference Note. This allows you to have almost anything you want for a Source Template and Citation Detail, yet you can have the Reference Note in full agreement with the E. E. template for interview tapes and transcripts. In your case, I would be inclined to have as the Source a collection of interviews with a single person.

P.S. Take a look at E. E. p. 3.32 Source List Entry citing multiple interviews.
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Re: Source Question - Personal Interviews, Conversations

November 26, 2018, 4:08 pm
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There are a number of ways to source all the interviews, but I think the best way is to have a single source for each informant. Therefore, you will have a source for aunt Betty, a source for uncle Bob, a source for cousin Johnny etc. For each informant's source, each interview will be a source citation.

Thus for each interview with aunt Betty, you would create a Citation Detail, which will automatically create the Reference Note, hopefully similar to p. 3.32. This will require some trial and error. Of course, you could create any Citation Detail you want, and then create/edit your own Reference Note similar to p. 3.32
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Re: Source Question - Personal Interviews, Conversations

November 26, 2018, 9:04 pm
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We're on the same wavelength (I think) - just took me a while to get there! :-) I've been away from my research for quite a while, and the re-learning curve is steep. I sure appreciate your clear and generous information. You've helped get at least this one train back on the tracks! Thank you!
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Re: November 2018 update

November 27, 2018, 10:32 am
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The definition of being under a rock.
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Re: Observations – FTM2012 with TreeSync

November 28, 2018, 8:47 am
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Re: November 2018 update

November 28, 2018, 11:30 am
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Yes, I've installed it and have been using it for some time now (v23.2, which was released around the beginning of October, as Burgess says - I'm not aware of a more recent one). I haven't noticed any problems with it, but to be honest I don't use FTM much for actual research, and I think most of the fixes related to problems with searching etc., so I'm not the best person to advise! Hopefully other users can say whether the update fixed all these problems or if it has introduced any new ones.
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Re: November 2018 update

November 28, 2018, 11:44 am
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