Another option to use is before you sync, in FTM export those individuals you wish to preserve. Then you can let the sync complete. Restore the Export to a temp tree and merge that back into the FTM file. At that point and additional sync would add them back to Ancestry.
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Re: Specifying a direction for sync with FTM
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Re: Specifying a direction for sync with FTM
Sorry ginglish1, our posts crossed. Yes, I think your solution is the best, as long as you know which individuals and facts need to be exported. Otherwise, you'd need to back up / export the whole tree to be sure of including them all.
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Re: Specifying a direction for sync with FTM
Unfortunately I don't think that works for deletions - as Burgess said, deletions always take effect even if the deleted person has been amended later in the other system. I suspect this is inherent in the design of the sync process, where "structure changes" such as additions and deletions are always carried out first, then amendments are applied (if possible). It might be simply because Ancestry presumably doesn't keep a history of changes, so there's no way for the sync to determine when a deletion happened (or for Ancestry to provide an "undo" facility). Whatever the cause, I've not found any way to prevent an Ancestry deletion being applied to FTM on the next sync. On the other hand, deletions in FTM can be cancelled by restoring a backup, if one is available of course.
The only suggestions I can think of for the OP are:
a) back up and then temporarily restore the FTM tree under a different name (NOT synced to Ancestry), then after syncing the original tree, re-add the missing people and facts using the temporary tree as a model. You could open the model tree in another instance of FTM and have them both on screen, or you could possibly use the merge function to do it automatically, though I have not tried this [edit: see ginglish1's post]
OR...
b) unlink the FTM tree from Ancestry, then upload it again as a new tree (and delete the original one from Ancestry once you are happy with the results). Unfortunately you would have to reinvite any guests and collaborators, and you'd also lose any Ancestry-specific data such as comments.
The only suggestions I can think of for the OP are:
a) back up and then temporarily restore the FTM tree under a different name (NOT synced to Ancestry), then after syncing the original tree, re-add the missing people and facts using the temporary tree as a model. You could open the model tree in another instance of FTM and have them both on screen, or you could possibly use the merge function to do it automatically, though I have not tried this [edit: see ginglish1's post]
OR...
b) unlink the FTM tree from Ancestry, then upload it again as a new tree (and delete the original one from Ancestry once you are happy with the results). Unfortunately you would have to reinvite any guests and collaborators, and you'd also lose any Ancestry-specific data such as comments.
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Indication of Second Spouse on Descendants Outline Report
I have printouts from an earlier FTM version, where the 2nd spouse was clearly indicated (with a title in the left margin indicating the 2nd spouse). Now having updated to a newer version (2012) I cannot get the same report to print out that little indicator....and having a 2nd marriage in one of my earlier ancestors, when this report is printed out, the two spouses are spread out over many pages, and its not clear to the viewer of where the data for that 2nd spouse begins. Am I missing a setting somewhere or might I need an upgrade of the software...or something else! I like how the report from 2006 identified the 2nd marriage on this report
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Re: Indication of Second Spouse on Descendants Outline Report
I'm running FTM 2012 and the Outline Descendant Report shows all the spouses when the checkbox is selected. Because I don't have any descendants for the non-ancestrial spouses, they are listed at the bottom of the list of names and they have no indicators in the left margin. I don't see any checkboxes or other settings that would create an indicator as you described. I have no idea if FTM 2017 will solve your problem. Hopefully someone will respond.
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Re: Generating a Report
Thank you! I could only find how to filter people and which fields to show. I did look in help, but didn't think to look under "filter." I will give this a try as soon as I have a few spare minutes. The field I want to show it obituary.
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Can I hide a person without deleting him?
I would like to hide a divorced spouse especially on my linked Ancestry tree. I do not want to totally delete him, just hide him on my tree.
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Re: Can I hide a person without deleting him?
If the person is living, only you will see the profile and other details. The living are hidden to all, unless you invite them to your tree with access to the living.
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Re: Can I hide a person without deleting him?
Is there any off spring from the union, if so it just may mess things up?
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Re: Buttons Disabled in FTM2012
Hi, I had this problem for some time and think the cause is that you have Auto update selected. If you go to the top right corner you have a tick if in sync and two arrows if sync needed. Right click on whichever is displayed and select the 'Sync Options'. This will open an update options window just select to manually update and the button functionality returns, well did on mine so fingers crossed ;-)
Hope it helps
Dave
Hope it helps
Dave
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Re: Can I hide a person without deleting him?
You may be able to delete the relationship to a person in your tree and then the unrelated person will be in your tree but not connected to anyone. His info will still be available and he will be findable as an unrelated person or a search by name.
I kept several unrelated people in my tree for some time because I initially suspected that they were related but could never prove it.
I kept several unrelated people in my tree for some time because I initially suspected that they were related but could never prove it.
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FTM 2017 adding sources
I have just invested in FTM2017 for MAC, imported a file(from RM-Mac version) with hundreds of sources AND citations (they are different!). I have used the templates of Evidence Explained for some time and understand how to cite sources. Sadly, the ged load into FTM 2017...is .... a ...mess!!
I looked carefully at FTM's version of Mill's templates and they are not correct -- at least the outcome is not correct.
What I am asking, trying to figure out is how to use FTM to get the correct formatted source...and citation too?
It appears that FTM's system is to have a "source title" which serves as a master and general, so that several citations could be attached to that title. I've checked the help section and the manual, but no adequate explanation.
To redo all my sources would be a chore, but willing to do it, if there IS a way to do it! The other sections "work places" are really terrific in this program, but without accurate sourcing ability, one could not use this program professionally!
I looked carefully at FTM's version of Mill's templates and they are not correct -- at least the outcome is not correct.
What I am asking, trying to figure out is how to use FTM to get the correct formatted source...and citation too?
It appears that FTM's system is to have a "source title" which serves as a master and general, so that several citations could be attached to that title. I've checked the help section and the manual, but no adequate explanation.
To redo all my sources would be a chore, but willing to do it, if there IS a way to do it! The other sections "work places" are really terrific in this program, but without accurate sourcing ability, one could not use this program professionally!
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Re: FTM 2017 adding sources
I've only used source templates briefly a long time ago, so I'm certainly no expert, but I think the problem is that source templates are not officially part of the GEDCOM standard, and so each genealogy program implements them in a proprietary manner. That makes gedcom interchange of templates between different programs (and even back into the same program via gedcom export/import) a problem, and some quick googling suggests that RM in particular has issues with exporting source templates. This link: https://iseeancestors.com/comm/2011/03/01/should-i-use-sourc... is rather old, but seems to cover the problem, and more recent postings elsewhere (e.g. https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13246) suggest it's still an issue.
Hopefully someone with experience of using FTM source templates will be able to provide more specific (and probably more correct!) advice.
Hopefully someone with experience of using FTM source templates will be able to provide more specific (and probably more correct!) advice.
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FTM not linked
I have FTM 2017 with the latest build on 2 desktop computers that I sync to Ancestry.
On one of the computers, sometimes when I open FTM, it says I am not linked to Ancestry.
I have no idea why this has happened.
The FTM link process involved either uploading or downloading my file.
Is there a way to link with out uploading or downloading my file???
On one of the computers, sometimes when I open FTM, it says I am not linked to Ancestry.
I have no idea why this has happened.
The FTM link process involved either uploading or downloading my file.
Is there a way to link with out uploading or downloading my file???
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FTM not linked
I have FTM 2017 with the latest build on 2 desktop computers that I sync to Ancestry.
On one of the computers, sometimes when I open FTM, it says I am not linked to Ancestry.
I have no idea why this has happened.
The FTM link process involved either uploading or downloading my file.
Is there a way to link with out uploading or downloading my file???
On one of the computers, sometimes when I open FTM, it says I am not linked to Ancestry.
I have no idea why this has happened.
The FTM link process involved either uploading or downloading my file.
Is there a way to link with out uploading or downloading my file???
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Re: FTM 2017 adding sources
I'm running FTM 2012. As a test, I exported a single person from an FTM tree to a GEDCOM 5.5 file. This person had three custom sources, each source having a single citation. The sources were a website for Missouri death certificates, Findagrave, and a Newspaper. Each source was created using an appropriate template, and the GEDCOM looked like it had all the sources, citation details, citation texts, and reference notes from the FTM tree.
I then created a new FTM tree from the GEDCOM and noted the Findagrave source and the newspaper source were no longer templated. However, the Missouri death certificate was still templated. I then repeated the process, and this time all three sources had lost there template. It looks like Ross is correct.
Regarding reference notes, FTM takes information from the source and the citation detail and creates the reference note. Theoretically, depending upon the source template used, the reference note should have a format that matches the type of source. I rarely see the reference note built properly, and so I manually edit the FTM created reference note, or in most cases, I completely re-write it to comply with Evidence Explained. By editing the reference note, changes made to the source and/or citation detail will not effect the reference note unless it is reset.
I then created a new FTM tree from the GEDCOM and noted the Findagrave source and the newspaper source were no longer templated. However, the Missouri death certificate was still templated. I then repeated the process, and this time all three sources had lost there template. It looks like Ross is correct.
Regarding reference notes, FTM takes information from the source and the citation detail and creates the reference note. Theoretically, depending upon the source template used, the reference note should have a format that matches the type of source. I rarely see the reference note built properly, and so I manually edit the FTM created reference note, or in most cases, I completely re-write it to comply with Evidence Explained. By editing the reference note, changes made to the source and/or citation detail will not effect the reference note unless it is reset.
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Re: FTM 2017 adding sources
There's a program called GED-GEN that can generate web pages from gedcom files, but http://www.ged-gen.com/help/hlpmisc-template.html has some information about source templates and Roots Magic, so might also be helpful. Good luck!
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Re: Storing general, family-related or temporal history history in FTM
The easiest way to attach that type of information is to note it in the personal notes. However it is available to the person it is attached and would have to be copied to any other person to whom it applies.
There is an other way, and that is to use it as media. Place the information into a WordPerfect file or MSword. Add the file to the Media section of FTM and attach the media to each person the information applies.
I like to use PDF files for this sort of thing. In a word processor the information can be easily changed. In a PDF file the information can not be changed when casually viewing the file. I keep the word processor file as backup.
I have not used it but there is a third way of doing this in the report section you could create a text document with the information.
There is an other way, and that is to use it as media. Place the information into a WordPerfect file or MSword. Add the file to the Media section of FTM and attach the media to each person the information applies.
I like to use PDF files for this sort of thing. In a word processor the information can be easily changed. In a PDF file the information can not be changed when casually viewing the file. I keep the word processor file as backup.
I have not used it but there is a third way of doing this in the report section you could create a text document with the information.
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Re: FTM not linked
I'm not sure if I understand your exact issue, but to access Ancestry through FTM you have to sign into Ancestry through FTM. You can sign in through FTM without syncing, uploading or downloading.
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Re: FTM 2017 adding sources
"It appears that FTM's system is to have a "source title" which serves as a master and general, so that several citations could be attached to that title".
You are correct about a single source and multiple citations for that source. The source can be created by Ancestry or one of its affiliates, or it can be custom. Attached is a .jpg showing a typical custom (non-Ancestry) online database and reference note (major form of citation). The source list is on the left side of the screen, and the name depends upon the source template for that source. All the sources shown are custom databases, thus they are all quoted, per the Evidence template used. A pop-up window shows the template for the selected source.
In the center of the screen is the "Source Citations" which is nothing more than the "Citation detail" and "Citation text" glued togther. I'm not sure what it is good for. On the lower right is the "Reference note", which in this case is layered because the online source is a derivative. It can easily be edited to suit your needs, and will not be changed unless you make the changes. As mentioned in my first comment, the Reference note is originally created by FTM using info from the source and the citation detail, and varies depending upon the source template. For derivatives, 9 times out of 10 you will need to edit the Reference note to get it in compliance with Evidence.
You are correct about a single source and multiple citations for that source. The source can be created by Ancestry or one of its affiliates, or it can be custom. Attached is a .jpg showing a typical custom (non-Ancestry) online database and reference note (major form of citation). The source list is on the left side of the screen, and the name depends upon the source template for that source. All the sources shown are custom databases, thus they are all quoted, per the Evidence template used. A pop-up window shows the template for the selected source.
In the center of the screen is the "Source Citations" which is nothing more than the "Citation detail" and "Citation text" glued togther. I'm not sure what it is good for. On the lower right is the "Reference note", which in this case is layered because the online source is a derivative. It can easily be edited to suit your needs, and will not be changed unless you make the changes. As mentioned in my first comment, the Reference note is originally created by FTM using info from the source and the citation detail, and varies depending upon the source template. For derivatives, 9 times out of 10 you will need to edit the Reference note to get it in compliance with Evidence.
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