Kj_norway comment
“However, my comments for FTM and Ancestry were not really about data, but about the way they are less sophisticated regarding genealogy research standards and data capture and recording. Some times they facilitate bad habits that would not be acceptable in a scientific environment.”
Well, well, well, and my goodness; glad to see you [finally*] espousing this also---seems like a million previous discussions/posts/threads in this area
Yes it [the system as with its presently inadequate standards, definitions, instructions, processes, etc.] does facilitate bad habits
-Some users are even prone to using/creating/advocating [and in some cases incorrect] workarounds because of the system inadequacies
-Some users even enter data when they have no record to support that data just to pretty up their documentation [because the system won’t do what they want to do]
-The documentation and descriptions provided in the help areas leave much to be desired [as discussed many times] when providing definitions of terms---e.g., the running battle/discussion on whether a workaround in the “Places” area resolves a “Place’ or just kicks it down the hierarchy
-And in general, the many, many discussions on the inadequacy of “Places” , e.g., historical versus present location, missing locations in the data base, etc.
-Etc, Etc, Etc
*Note the word “Finally” – I realize you have previously been saying something to the effect of your statement, BUT this time you have succinctly and clearly stated it – maybe it is because you have let the PHD cat out of the bag
Comment by Rich Canfield
“OF COURSE WE ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT, this is to record these trees as a possible leads.”
No ---- we are not ALL in agreement on this ------there is no need to record the “TREES” as possible leads---- And in fact many users on this thread have pointed out the potential problems from using data from the trees------Hate to say this but, instant gratification in genealogy will lead to GIGO and lots of undo’s and Redo’s
“However, my comments for FTM and Ancestry were not really about data, but about the way they are less sophisticated regarding genealogy research standards and data capture and recording. Some times they facilitate bad habits that would not be acceptable in a scientific environment.”
Well, well, well, and my goodness; glad to see you [finally*] espousing this also---seems like a million previous discussions/posts/threads in this area
Yes it [the system as with its presently inadequate standards, definitions, instructions, processes, etc.] does facilitate bad habits
-Some users are even prone to using/creating/advocating [and in some cases incorrect] workarounds because of the system inadequacies
-Some users even enter data when they have no record to support that data just to pretty up their documentation [because the system won’t do what they want to do]
-The documentation and descriptions provided in the help areas leave much to be desired [as discussed many times] when providing definitions of terms---e.g., the running battle/discussion on whether a workaround in the “Places” area resolves a “Place’ or just kicks it down the hierarchy
-And in general, the many, many discussions on the inadequacy of “Places” , e.g., historical versus present location, missing locations in the data base, etc.
-Etc, Etc, Etc
*Note the word “Finally” – I realize you have previously been saying something to the effect of your statement, BUT this time you have succinctly and clearly stated it – maybe it is because you have let the PHD cat out of the bag
Comment by Rich Canfield
“OF COURSE WE ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT, this is to record these trees as a possible leads.”
No ---- we are not ALL in agreement on this ------there is no need to record the “TREES” as possible leads---- And in fact many users on this thread have pointed out the potential problems from using data from the trees------Hate to say this but, instant gratification in genealogy will lead to GIGO and lots of undo’s and Redo’s